what is gone on with Boulding? how can he take so long to make his mind up? he must be holding out for a better offer despite the fact he's apparently had 15-17!

If Shaw was to be more of a striker in reserve for city next season, it's understandable why Stuart didn't want to spend 60k on him. wonder where all this leaves Beckett?

If 60K is a problem god help the rest of the season. It only needed 2p on the price of a pie or to put off buying a new car.

negativity by the club £60,000 isnt a lot for a proven goalscorer albeit from a lower league,he had youth on his side instead of old men like thorpe and conlon

Mr Sensible wrote:
If 60K is a problem god help the rest of the season. It only needed 2p on the price of a pie or to put off buying a new car.

you never cease to amaze do you senseless,60k is not the problem its who you spend it on and Shaw is not that person,you could always make a donation if you Knew where Valley Parade was.

I must admit I would rather City spend £60k on a young striker who clearly knows where the net is, than an un-known prospect costing the club £35k. We were happy to spend £35k on Topp despite his record of not scoring many goals. I find it hard to accept that we can't, therefore, push the boat out for a player that can score.

Last season, McCall made a lot of noise about Rochdale's policy of bringing in the right young players and that is why they had a good season. We had the opportunity of bringing one of them to City and instead give the chance to Rochdale to add to their already impressive young squad. Where is the logic in that??

Instead, we have Thorne (a proven goalscorer but susceptible to injury), Conlon (because of a lack of goals only given a 6mth contract), Topp (skillful but has never been a prolific striker) and Daley (apart from having pace isn't really a striker). We need a goalscorer and quick and I am getting worried about this position, especially when we allow other clubs to sign them up before us.

Furthermore, I am concerned we don't appear to be any further forward signing a keeper either. Loan players are a good idea, but should be more of a boost to our squad, NOT A REPLACEMENT.

I am not normally negative and as anyone that reads my posts will vouch, I am usually very positive, but the lack of a new striker and a keeper is starting to worry me.

well well well the storey still goes on lets for get about boulding and get the keeper situaton sorted out, and then concentrate on a striker.
we have a week before we play our first pre season game at farsley and with only 1 goalie we will look abit stupid if he gets injured i just hope stu isnt going to loan a goal keeper and then we lose him back to his club 3 months later that would just be stupid theres loads of decent goalies out there on the market so come on stu get it sorted....

Waynus wrote:
I must admit I would rather City spend £60k on a young striker who clearly knows where the net is, than an un-known prospect costing the club £35k. We were happy to spend £35k on Topp despite his record of not scoring many goals. I find it hard to accept that we can't, therefore, push the boat out for a player that can score.Last season, McCall made a lot of noise about Rochdale's policy of bringing in the right young players and that is why they had a good season. We had the opportunity of bringing one of them to City and instead give the chance to Rochdale to add to their already impressive young squad. Where is the logic in that??Instead, we have Thorne (a proven goalscorer but susceptible to injury), Conlon (because of a lack of goals only given a 6mth contract), Topp (skillful but has never been a prolific striker) and Daley (apart from having pace isn't really a striker). We need a goalscorer and quick and I am getting worried about this position, especially when we allow other clubs to sign them up before us.Furthermore, I am concerned we don't appear to be any further forward signing a keeper either. Loan players are a good idea, but should be more of a boost to our squad, NOT A REPLACEMENT.I am not normally negative and as anyone that reads my posts will vouch, I am usually very positive, but the lack of a new striker and a keeper is starting to worry me.

well said waynus.. couldnt agree more..

I have to agree here that £60K IS A PITTANCE--look at Rochdale's income stream and it does not come anywhere near ours.

Topp was £35K and, in my opinion and maybe that of SM, too much. The fact that that deal went through some agent operating a third division Belgian Club as well as a non EU player trafficking system has proven and will prove to be a very expensive mistake.

Are the club saying that they cannot afford to take a risk on a young player with a proven scoring record for a team struggling badly yet only one league below us. If so the finances are seriously bad and makes me wonder whether there was ever intention of signing Moore on wages of close to £8000 PLUS per week:that is what LUKE STEELE was on at WBA and which BARNSLEY are now paying.

There does not seem to be any joined up thinking at the club at present and we have a back room staffing level which seems way too high for a club of our stature.

The signings this close season look good on paper and could well do a great short term job in maybe, and it's a big maybe, getting us promoted but they are not players we are going to be able to develop and sell on as we should have been able to do so with Shaw.

Incidentally did Topp get back ok and does anyone know if he's fully fit and ready to play 90 minute games for the whole of the season.

or is he going to be used spasmodically again as an impact player:not that he made too much impact last season!!

Tyker,Topps back,seen him being put thru his paces by Wethers.Does anyone know who the two black lads are at training?

60K is a pittance? Remind me again which club do you claim to support? Surely not the one which has suffered two periods of administration in recent years and is largely in this division because lack of money meant they had to loan out their top scorer for a fee and sell their star player? Yes it's different with Mark Lawn on board, but if his money was that significant why didn’t we spend lots of money last season?

Time for a reality check for certain people. City have some money but it has to be used wisely. At the end of the day it's clear Shaw was viewed as a back up striker and if you only have a certain budget you don’t spend it on back ups. Yes it's disappointing to think City have to be put off by a modest transfer fee, but it's worth noting that, had he made the deal, it would be out second most expensive signing since relegation from the Premiership.

Get back to the real world and remember your recent history, and as for that idiot below moaning about the lack of a striker and goalkeeper - for goodness sake calm down. Look at where we were this time last year!

city boy wrote:
Tyker,Topps back,seen him being put thru his paces by Wethers.Does anyone know who the two black lads are at training?

stevie wonder and frank bruno

Mansfield Town have announced that Boulding has left them.Presumably he was busy watching the tennis during the past fortnight and dreaming of his former life.
His agent seems to be "flogging" him to every league 2 club that needs a striker.When will he start pre-season training?Currently he must be spending most of his time on the M1 and M62.

JM, Skipton wrote:
60K is a pittance? Remind me again which club do you claim to support? Surely not the one which has suffered two periods of administration in recent years and is largely in this division because lack of money meant they had to loan out their top scorer for a fee and sell their star player? Yes it's different with Mark Lawn on board, but if his money was that significant why didn’t we spend lots of money last season? Time for a reality check for certain people. City have some money but it has to be used wisely. At the end of the day it's clear Shaw was viewed as a back up striker and if you only have a certain budget you don’t spend it on back ups. Yes it's disappointing to think City have to be put off by a modest transfer fee, but it's worth noting that, had he made the deal, it would be out second most expensive signing since relegation from the Premiership. Get back to the real world and remember your recent history, and as for that idiot below moaning about the lack of a striker and goalkeeper - for goodness sake calm down. Look at where we were this time last year!

Money is tight. What is the total cost of McCall, Jacobs and Wetherall. Seems as though one extra there. Getting a little like cut backs on the shop floor.

JM, Skipton wrote:
60K is a pittance? Remind me again which club do you claim to support? Surely not the one which has suffered two periods of administration in recent years and is largely in this division because lack of money meant they had to loan out their top scorer for a fee and sell their star player? Yes it's different with Mark Lawn on board, but if his money was that significant why didn’t we spend lots of money last season? Time for a reality check for certain people. City have some money but it has to be used wisely. At the end of the day it's clear Shaw was viewed as a back up striker and if you only have a certain budget you don’t spend it on back ups. Yes it's disappointing to think City have to be put off by a modest transfer fee, but it's worth noting that, had he made the deal, it would be out second most expensive signing since relegation from the Premiership. Get back to the real world and remember your recent history, and as for that idiot below moaning about the lack of a striker and goalkeeper - for goodness sake calm down. Look at where we were this time last year!

JM, this time last year we had little or no players and ended up signings players for the sake of filling spaces, AKA Phelan. We MAY be able to get byin the short term, without another striker, BUT we definitely need a number 1 keeper.

Admittedly, we have come a long way from last season and we have arguably the best midfield in the division. However, the position of goalkeeper is one of the most important of the whole team. Why does that warrant calling me an 'idiot'?

I have always been supportive of McCall and City, but feel we missed a trick in getting Shaw on board and feel there are enough good keepers out there to have not brought one in yet. Fulham had three keepers on their books at the end of the season and have signed another two. Five good keepers. Surely we could try to sign one of them permanently or on a season long loan?

Just because you do not agree with me about signing a keeper and striker, it doesn't give you a right to call me an idiot!

city boy wrote:
Tyker,Topps back,seen him being put thru his paces by Wethers.Does anyone know who the two black lads are at training?

I think this question has already been asked (and answered) under another post.

The two 'black' lads are Daley and Clarke.

nullThorne or Shaw for most goals Skippy?My money would be on Thorne.The best young CF in the division last season was Bury's Andy Bishop.Now he would be worth spending money on,if he hasnt been snapped up already.

He was far too young anyway!!!
Im sure Stuart has a nice cheep 40+ striker ready for the new season......Oh yes thats Thorne!!!!!

Looks like a Free Fall season coming up. Understand they are thinking already of a plan to sell season tickets for season 2009-10. Buy one get one free if 2,000 are sold by 1 October. YOU THINK I AM JOKING.

most of you see but don't read. now the admins 60k does not include shaw's preferance to 'dale over city that is his choice also do not discount the signing on fee nor indeed wages plus other little extras which are always "hidden"in a contract. so i believe stu et al are correct in not bringing jon shaw on board.

Waynus wrote:
JM, Skipton wrote:60K is a pittance? Remind me again which club do you claim to support? Surely not the one which has suffered two periods of administration in recent years and is largely in this division because lack of money meant they had to loan out their top scorer for a fee and sell their star player? Yes it's different with Mark Lawn on board, but if his money was that significant why didn’t we spend lots of money last season? Time for a reality check for certain people. City have some money but it has to be used wisely. At the end of the day it's clear Shaw was viewed as a back up striker and if you only have a certain budget you don’t spend it on back ups. Yes it's disappointing to think City have to be put off by a modest transfer fee, but it's worth noting that, had he made the deal, it would be out second most expensive signing since relegation from the Premiership. Get back to the real world and remember your recent history, and as for that idiot below moaning about the lack of a striker and goalkeeper - for goodness sake calm down. Look at where we were this time last year! JM, this time last year we had little or no players and ended up signings players for the sake of filling spaces, AKA Phelan. We MAY be able to get byin the short term, without another striker, BUT we definitely need a number 1 keeper.Admittedly, we have come a long way from last season and we have arguably the best midfield in the division. However, the position of goalkeeper is one of the most important of the whole team. Why does that warrant calling me an 'idiot'?I have always been supportive of McCall and City, but feel we missed a trick in getting Shaw on board and feel there are enough good keepers out there to have not brought one in yet. Fulham had three keepers on their books at the end of the season and have signed another two. Five good keepers. Surely we could try to sign one of them permanently or on a season long loan?Just because you do not agree with me about signing a keeper and striker, it doesn't give you a right to call me an idiot!

i apologise mate, I was out of order calling you an idiot. i was wound up by the other guy.

i do still think your worry is misplaced. we will sign a keeper and a striker in time for kick off, that's obvious, so I don't get why you are so worried at this moment. even if we don't have them in time for the farsley game (which is still over a week away) it's not the end of the world.

anyway sorry again, you're not an idiot.

Everyone knows we aren't awash with money. In such a situation, I can understand why we've not signed Shaw. The Goalkeeping and Striker vacancies now seem likely to be filled by loan signings.

I'm still unsure where Topp fits into this team, in this league.

JM, Skipton wrote:
Waynus wrote:
JM, Skipton wrote:60K is a pittance? Remind me again which club do you claim to support? Surely not the one which has suffered two periods of administration in recent years and is largely in this division because lack of money meant they had to loan out their top scorer for a fee and sell their star player? Yes it's different with Mark Lawn on board, but if his money was that significant why didn’t we spend lots of money last season? Time for a reality check for certain people. City have some money but it has to be used wisely. At the end of the day it's clear Shaw was viewed as a back up striker and if you only have a certain budget you don’t spend it on back ups. Yes it's disappointing to think City have to be put off by a modest transfer fee, but it's worth noting that, had he made the deal, it would be out second most expensive signing since relegation from the Premiership. Get back to the real world and remember your recent history, and as for that idiot below moaning about the lack of a striker and goalkeeper - for goodness sake calm down. Look at where we were this time last year! JM, this time last year we had little or no players and ended up signings players for the sake of filling spaces, AKA Phelan. We MAY be able to get byin the short term, without another striker, BUT we definitely need a number 1 keeper.Admittedly, we have come a long way from last season and we have arguably the best midfield in the division. However, the position of goalkeeper is one of the most important of the whole team. Why does that warrant calling me an 'idiot'?I have always been supportive of McCall and City, but feel we missed a trick in getting Shaw on board and feel there are enough good keepers out there to have not brought one in yet. Fulham had three keepers on their books at the end of the season and have signed another two. Five good keepers. Surely we could try to sign one of them permanently or on a season long loan?Just because you do not agree with me about signing a keeper and striker, it doesn't give you a right to call me an idiot!i apologise mate, I was out of order calling you an idiot. i was wound up by the other guy.

i do still think your worry is misplaced. we will sign a keeper and a striker in time for kick off, that's obvious, so I don't get why you are so worried at this moment. even if we don't have them in time for the farsley game (which is still over a week away) it's not the end of the world.

anyway sorry again, you're not an idiot.

Cheers JM. I am just a little concerned that our 'targets' have failed to arrive (in goal and up front).

McCall has pulled a few rabbits out of the bag regarding our defensive and midfield positions, but we still lack quality up front, another left winger and obviously a keeper. I just don't want us to sign a player for the sake of it, as we did this time last year with the two kids from Barnsley.

I heard a couple of rumours tonight. Rhys Evans set to return to City and Boulding joining Grimsby. I can't see the latter being true, but I would be more than happy for Evans to come back.

Good strikers are hard to get and I just think we had the chance of signing a good young forward with the opportunity of improving him further (under Thorne's guidance) and making a large profit on him. I hope we don't come to regret it, though we no doubt we will when we play Rochdale at the start of the season!

Mr Sensible wrote:
Looks like a Free Fall season coming up. Understand they are thinking already of a plan to sell season tickets for season 2009-10. Buy one get one free if 2,000 are sold by 1 October. YOU THINK I AM JOKING.

No Mr Sensible, we don't THINK YOU ARE JOKING. We just THINK YOU ARE A JOKE!!

Waynus wrote:
Mr Sensible wrote:Looks like a Free Fall season coming up. Understand they are thinking already of a plan to sell season tickets for season 2009-10. Buy one get one free if 2,000 are sold by 1 October. YOU THINK I AM JOKING.No Mr Sensible, we don't THINK YOU ARE JOKING. We just THINK YOU ARE A JOKE!!

Waynus-Buttershaw Just watch this space and the bottom half of the Fourth Division tables. P.S. How is the Stuarts Fighting Fund going, why not 60K from that????

Just seen this on TeamTalk website:

Beckett has Terriers future
Huddersfield striker Luke Beckett will be given every chance with the Terriers next season, according to manager Stan Ternent.
Beckett, 31, has been linked with a move away from the Galpharm Stadium all summer, while new boss Ternent has made striker Keigan Parker one of his four close-season signings.
But Ternent told the club's official website: "I told him (Beckett) that I'm quite happy for him to stay here.
"Luke can score goals and if he wants to be part of the club that's fine by me.
"If he wants to do something else I'll look at that and try to help him.
"The same goes for all of the players, but transfer fees and replacements will come into the equation."

So, will we have to look elsewhere?

Helen Highwater wrote:
Just seen this on TeamTalk website:Beckett has Terriers futureHuddersfield striker Luke Beckett will be given every chance with the Terriers next season, according to manager Stan Ternent.Beckett, 31, has been linked with a move away from the Galpharm Stadium all summer, while new boss Ternent has made striker Keigan Parker one of his four close-season signings.But Ternent told the club's official website: "I told him (Beckett) that I'm quite happy for him to stay here."Luke can score goals and if he wants to be part of the club that's fine by me."If he wants to do something else I'll look at that and try to help him."The same goes for all of the players, but transfer fees and replacements will come into the equation."So, will we have to look elsewhere?

Not really. We have already agreed a fee with Town and it just boils down to personal terms and whether McCall still wants Beckett at the club. If he does and we can afford Beckett's terms, he will be a City player. The problem is, I don't think McCall wants him anymore.

Also, this could be a ploy by Ternant to get McCall to make up his mind. At the moment, we haven't ruled out signing Beckett (offically), but nobody seems to know for sure. Ternant may just be making noises about Beckett to stoke up more fresh talks.

Mr Sensible wrote:
Waynus wrote:Mr Sensible wrote:Looks like a Free Fall season coming up. Understand they are thinking already of a plan to sell season tickets for season 2009-10. Buy one get one free if 2,000 are sold by 1 October. YOU THINK I AM JOKING.No Mr Sensible, we don't THINK YOU ARE JOKING. We just THINK YOU ARE A JOKE!!Waynus-Butters
haw Just watch this space and the bottom half of the Fourth Division tables. P.S. How is the Stuarts Fighting Fund going, why not 60K from that????

Firstly, can I just point out that BD6 is not just the postal code for Buttershaw. It also covers Wibsey, Woodside and Odsal. For the record, I am not from Buttershaw. Something else you have got wrong!

Secondly, you are right. We will just have to wait until the end of the season to see if you, 'our oh so mighty one' are correct. I seriously doubt it and would ask you to keep a lid on your negativity until then!

As for the fighting fund, I don't think we have collected £60k as fans and local businesses alike are feeling the pinch. In case you hadn't heard (with you having your head up your bum *polite enough for you?* ) we are heading towards a recession and the credit crunch is starting to bite. Many businesses have already gone bust and more are expected to follow. People cannot afford to throw money towards "Stuart's Fighting Fund" at present until stability reappears in the financial sector.

Finally, I notice you were online at 08:30hrs. Surprising really since Barbados is five hours behind us, which makes the 'local' time 03:30hrs. Liars have to have a good memory!

Waynus wrote:
Mr Sensible wrote:Waynus wrote:Mr Sensible wrote:Looks like a Free Fall season coming up. Understand they are thinking already of a plan to sell season tickets for season 2009-10. Buy one get one free if 2,000 are sold by 1 October. YOU THINK I AM JOKING.No Mr Sensible, we don't THINK YOU ARE JOKING. We just THINK YOU ARE A JOKE!!Waynus-Butters
haw Just watch this space and the bottom half of the Fourth Division tables. P.S. How is the Stuarts Fighting Fund going, why not 60K from that????Firstly, can I just point out that BD6 is not just the postal code for Buttershaw. It also covers Wibsey, Woodside and Odsal. For the record, I am not from Buttershaw. Something else you have got wrong!Secondly, you are right. We will just have to wait until the end of the season to see if you, 'our oh so mighty one' are correct. I seriously doubt it and would ask you to keep a lid on your negativity until then!As for the fighting fund, I don't think we have collected £60k as fans and local businesses alike are feeling the pinch. In case you hadn't heard (with you having your head up your bum *polite enough for you?* ) we are heading towards a recession and the credit crunch is starting to bite. Many businesses have already gone bust and more are expected to follow. People cannot afford to throw money towards "Stuart's Fighting Fund" at present until stability reappears in the financial sector.Finally, I notice you were online at 08:30hrs. Surprising really since Barbados is five hours behind us, which makes the 'local' time 03:30hrs. Liars have to have a good memory!

I couldn't agree with you more, if not Buttershaw where? I am glad that you have a good knowledge of business and I agree things have to be looked after in these days and one has to put themselves out and keep a finger on things. I am not just having a good time but have to keep in touch. People have to keep unsociable hours, not just burglars.

Liar. Caught with your pants down, again.