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>McCall keen to strengthen wide-right slot
7:00am Tuesday 18th November 2008
Comments (52)Stuart McCall has made a loan inquiry for a right winger.
With Joe Colbeck still out until the new year, the City boss is trying to boost his injury-hit midfield with another fresh face for a month. But McCall is quite happy for on-loan Nicky Law to keep the role if his efforts prove unsuccessful.
McCall said: “It’s an area we’re looking to get someone in but they’ve got to be better than our current options.
“You don’t have to play with two out-and-out wingers. At Sheffield United, we had a natural winger on one side and Michael Tonge on the other who would come inside to other areas.
“If you work it right, sometimes coming in off the line and playing behind the front two can cause as many problems as an out-and-out wideman.
“Nicky doesn’t mind that role. It gives him more freedom because it takes away a few defensive responsibilities.”
Kyle Nix returns to action in this afternoon’s reserve game with Middlesbrough at Valley Parade.
McCall added: “Nixy has had a couple of weeks off for his ankle to settle down and he’s just got to get through it now.
“You need to be a little bit lucky and get through a few games without getting a knock on the same place. He got the knock in pre-season and then caught it against Rochdale and didn’t give it time to heal. But he was back to his normal self in training yesterday.”
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soulman, baildon says...
8:28am Tue 18 Nov 08
I thought Daley was a natural right winger? I am not sure what Topp is meant to do but if we pay his wages? We also have Nicky Law and Kyle Nix. Joe Colebeck will return in about six weeks. It still strikes me that the centre of midfield is the weakspot. What is it this season with injuries? Cannot recall a season when we have had virtually a whole team out. Bullock, Furman, Brandon (who he?), Colebeck, Topp(?), and Bower. There must be something up with Arnison, plus Heckingbottom. Thorne seems to carry a low level yet persistent back injury. A decade ago we maintained a fairly consistent line up.
Freddy, says...
9:00am Tue 18 Nov 08
"Soulman" - Daley plays better on the left wing. He has the ability to cut in, switch to his right peg, and score(As in the MKDons Cup Match). I want that to continue, as we are due that type of goal, from Daley, in the League.
I feel City need 2 Defenders and 2 Strikers URGENTLY. Yes to play with TWO recognised Wingers, is much more effective, and problematical to defensive biased teams(eg. Wycombe would have been pegged back more, with two good wingers).
IS JOHN HENDRIE MATCH FIT? !!!.
What is the problem with Willy Topp?
Would Simon Parker interview Stuart, and get an honest answer --PLEASE!!
I feel City need 2 Defenders and 2 Strikers URGENTLY. Yes to play with TWO recognised Wingers, is much more effective, and problematical to defensive biased teams(eg. Wycombe would have been pegged back more, with two good wingers).
IS JOHN HENDRIE MATCH FIT? !!!.
What is the problem with Willy Topp?
Would Simon Parker interview Stuart, and get an honest answer --PLEASE!!
tyker, midland road says...
9:07am Tue 18 Nov 08
what further proof do people need that Topp was a director signing for publicity value only and that SM does not and never has rated him.
If the now silent ML allows another loan signing to be added to the wage bill he will tacitly accept that the Topp signing was wrong.
If the now silent ML allows another loan signing to be added to the wage bill he will tacitly accept that the Topp signing was wrong.
Waynus, BD6 says...
9:31am Tue 18 Nov 08
Didn't Parker interview McCall a month or so back on exactly that point. McCall said Topp simply hadn't been performing in the reserves and that Ossie had been better in training. We usually start each match with 4 strikers, 2 on the pitch and 2 on the bench. If McCall opts for Boulding/Conlon for the bench, he can only pick one other and that has been Ossie of late. Isn't that an honest answer?
I agree with McCall that we need another natural winger on loan. If he can come in and be even better than Colbeck was before his injury, we can kick on again. The best form of defence is attack, such as the Exeter game.
I think we have defence covered. We have two left backs, two right backs and four centre backs. The key is to perm the correct four from those players and get them playing as a unit. In addition, we need our midfield to form a 2nd bank of four when we don't have the ball, making it more difficult for teams to break us down. At present, we often see Daley caught too far forward (not a criticism of the player), McLaren not tracking back and Law/Colbeck tucked inside, leaving our right unprotected. This needs to stop.
I also don't agree we need more strikers. We have Thorne, Conlon, Boulding brothers, Topp and Osborne. We have scored the second most amount of goals in the league, so we can't blame the strikers for failing to score. We failed to break down Wycombe, but so have many other teams this season. Thorne & Conlon had an off weekend, but that doesn't happen too often and our strikers have been prolific to date.
We do need a right-winger, preferably with pace and the ability to cross. I also agree we could do with another central midfielder. However, Bully is back in training so we may not need to cover that position after this weekend.
I agree with McCall that we need another natural winger on loan. If he can come in and be even better than Colbeck was before his injury, we can kick on again. The best form of defence is attack, such as the Exeter game.
I think we have defence covered. We have two left backs, two right backs and four centre backs. The key is to perm the correct four from those players and get them playing as a unit. In addition, we need our midfield to form a 2nd bank of four when we don't have the ball, making it more difficult for teams to break us down. At present, we often see Daley caught too far forward (not a criticism of the player), McLaren not tracking back and Law/Colbeck tucked inside, leaving our right unprotected. This needs to stop.
I also don't agree we need more strikers. We have Thorne, Conlon, Boulding brothers, Topp and Osborne. We have scored the second most amount of goals in the league, so we can't blame the strikers for failing to score. We failed to break down Wycombe, but so have many other teams this season. Thorne & Conlon had an off weekend, but that doesn't happen too often and our strikers have been prolific to date.
We do need a right-winger, preferably with pace and the ability to cross. I also agree we could do with another central midfielder. However, Bully is back in training so we may not need to cover that position after this weekend.
macca1969, settle says...
9:34am Tue 18 Nov 08
Why another winger,its the center of the team that needs strenghing,for a start a winger is an attacking player and every time city go away to a decent side mccall plays defensively.Why didn'nt he play osbourne on sat against wycombe,because he is frightened by any decent side in rthe league.I said if we play defensively for a draw we would get nothing thats exactly what we got.I know Wycombe are a big strong physical side (just like MK Dons) but what is it rthat big strong teams don't like PACE, even i know that.If we had the ability to hit them down both flanks with raw pace they would have had to defend deeper meanining they could not physically press us for the entire second half into our own half.Yes it was a lucky goal but as they say fortune follows the brave and we hust are not brave enough at the moment.Come on Stuart we nmay not be the biggest club in the country but we are the biggest in this league,RESPECT the opposition but lets start getting about them and try winning these matches we are better than wycombe and with the positive attitude we would destroy them.Do you not trust your players if not why are they here?Play for a draw against rothers and we won't be beat 1-0 we will lose by 3.Go out and try to win the game who knows maybe we will get that bit of luck this week.Give the players the freedom they need strong rthrough the middle pace on the flanks and the results should flow,remember the bwest form of defence is attack they can't score if we are in there half
spleen ventor, Bradford says...
9:53am Tue 18 Nov 08
It's not often I agree with Waynus but he's spot on, Thorne Boulding and Conlon have scored 22 goals betwen them so far, with only a third of the season gone, scoring hasn't been a problem, letting them in has.
I agree attack is the best form of defence but we've looked unbalanced and lacked that spark since Colbeck got injured. Nicky Law looked far more comfortable in the middle against MK Dons and I don't understand Stuart's thinking in moving him back out wide at Wycombe. Bringing in someone with a bit more pace to get behind full backs is what we need right now, create the chances and the forwards have prooved they'll score the goals.
I agree attack is the best form of defence but we've looked unbalanced and lacked that spark since Colbeck got injured. Nicky Law looked far more comfortable in the middle against MK Dons and I don't understand Stuart's thinking in moving him back out wide at Wycombe. Bringing in someone with a bit more pace to get behind full backs is what we need right now, create the chances and the forwards have prooved they'll score the goals.
macca1969, settle says...
10:12am Tue 18 Nov 08
I also don't often agree with waynus and unlike most of you i can go back 38 years,but onl a fool would say we need more strikers when our front 3 have scored more than most teams in the div by themselves.I agree that a natural winger would be great but we still need to start playing more positively.What we need more than ever is a ball winner to sit in front of back four but with enough energy to drive forward as well,a box to box player someone the manager can look at and say 'he reminds me of myself'.Tom Clarke is not this player he did great sat in front of defence on sat but gave nothing going forward we can't just defend,i just hope stuart thinks before signing a winger and looks at he balance of the whole team because i personally don't think its a priority
Freddy, says...
10:37am Tue 18 Nov 08
I have read on these articles, and comments boards, the following observations.
Conlon--not physical/too physical,and not good enough to prevent fouls against himself.Not scoring enough.
Boulding-M -- not physically strong enough. Not scoring enough,often being subbed.
Thorne-- constant back problem,not always available for selection.Could become unable to play, if his back problem is not resolved. Not always scoring.
To the comments above this--Have we really got a squad that can achieve Automatic Promotion?. Do we command the respect that say Wycombe are commanding?.
We have still not had a true response on the Willy Topp signing and non playing use; from either the Directors/Management and Press ( Who can only report allowable quotes).
"know-city" ?? I wonder!.
Conlon--not physical/too physical,and not good enough to prevent fouls against himself.Not scoring enough.
Boulding-M -- not physically strong enough. Not scoring enough,often being subbed.
Thorne-- constant back problem,not always available for selection.Could become unable to play, if his back problem is not resolved. Not always scoring.
To the comments above this--Have we really got a squad that can achieve Automatic Promotion?. Do we command the respect that say Wycombe are commanding?.
We have still not had a true response on the Willy Topp signing and non playing use; from either the Directors/Management and Press ( Who can only report allowable quotes).
"know-city" ?? I wonder!.
shaun from richmond, richmond says...
10:50am Tue 18 Nov 08
Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!
macca1969, settle says...
10:52am Tue 18 Nov 08
Calm down freddy i think that people talk a load of cr#p when results go against us.I can only agree that so far boulding has failed to get into top gear,in saying that though form is temporary class is permanent and i think hw will finish top scorer and we will see the best of him.In saying that though its the goals AGAINST thats hurting us not goals scored.We need to protect the defence more with a stronger midfield thats my view,what i will agree with your comments on the strikers is that they are all too old and if we do go up how many will be able to cut the mustard at a higher level,if we go for new strikers we need younger ones in they early to mid twenties
Waynus, BD6 says...
10:55am Tue 18 Nov 08
macca1969 wrote:Hey up fella.
Why another winger,its the center of the team that needs strenghing,for a start a winger is an attacking player and every time city go away to a decent side mccall plays defensively.Why didn'nt he play osbourne on sat against wycombe,because he is frightened by any decent side in rthe league.I said if we play defensively for a draw we would get nothing thats exactly what we got.I know Wycombe are a big strong physical side (just like MK Dons) but what is it rthat big strong teams don't like PACE, even i know that.If we had the ability to hit them down both flanks with raw pace they would have had to defend deeper meanining they could not physically press us for the entire second half into our own half.Yes it was a lucky goal but as they say fortune follows the brave and we hust are not brave enough at the moment.Come on Stuart we nmay not be the biggest club in the country but we are the biggest in this league,RESPECT the opposition but lets start getting about them and try winning these matches we are better than wycombe and with the positive attitude we would destroy them.Do you not trust your players if not why are they here?Play for a draw against rothers and we won't be beat 1-0 we will lose by 3.Go out and try to win the game who knows maybe we will get that bit of luck this week.Give the players the freedom they need strong rthrough the middle pace on the flanks and the results should flow,remember the bwest form of defence is attack they can't score if we are in there half
Isn't your post confusing? You start by asking why we are looking to bring in another winger (instead of a central midfielder) and then state we need width, as attack is the best form of defence.
I believe McCall may have got it spot on. We need natural width on the right hand side. Something that will give opposing teams more to think about that just marking Daley. I also believe we already have the 'box-to-box' player you requested for midfield. He is playing right-wing at the moment and that is our problem. Law plays his best football in the centre of the park and it was no coincidence that we snuffed out MK Dons when Law played in his natural position. By bringing in a natural winger (must be better than Colbeck/Brandon though), it gives us the option of moving Law inside and giving us more balance.
Waynus, BD6 says...
11:03am Tue 18 Nov 08
Freddy wrote:Firstly, leave the Topp story alone. We have already had statements from McCall answering why he isn't in the squad. Simple answer is, he doesn't think he is any better than we have in the squad already. He claims Topp hasn't been performing in reserve matches and hasn't set the training ground alight either. Get used to it, he isn't going to get a game at City (rightly or wrongly). Move on!
I have read on these articles, and comments boards, the following observations. Conlon--not physical/too physical,and not good enough to prevent fouls against himself.Not scoring enough. Boulding-M -- not physically strong enough. Not scoring enough,often being subbed. Thorne-- constant back problem,not always available for selection.Could become unable to play, if his back problem is not resolved. Not always scoring. To the comments above this--Have we really got a squad that can achieve Automatic Promotion?. Do we command the respect that say Wycombe are commanding?. We have still not had a true response on the Willy Topp signing and non playing use; from either the Directors/Management and Press ( Who can only report allowable quotes). "know-city" ?? I wonder!.
Secondly, I agree with macca1969 in that you shouldn't agree with everything you read on these boards. Too many posters are wind-up or just too fickle. We have scored a boat load of goals and look dangerous whenever we play to our strengths. Whether you like Boulding and Conlon or not, they have scored goals for us, even when we haven't been playing champagne football. If we can get our balance back in the side, the goals will continue to come for us. Should Thorne's back get worse, then I agree we look for a replacement, but not now. We can't afford to pay a wage for a player sitting on the bench waiting for Thorne's back to go.
Lenny_the_legend, bratfud says...
11:54am Tue 18 Nov 08
Here is a suggestion that might be a bit out of the box when coming to talking about the "right wing" issue. Why not for now play TJ as the winger ? He has pace, can deliver a good cross ( Barnet game as an example to set up BC ) and would be a bit more solid defensively then play Law in the middle where he is best ?
Or alternatively, play O'Brien on the left wing, Daley on the right (where he is best) and Hecky at LB ?
Why waste money on another loan player when we can look "in house" for solutions ?
Or alternatively, play O'Brien on the left wing, Daley on the right (where he is best) and Hecky at LB ?
Why waste money on another loan player when we can look "in house" for solutions ?
J4CKO, Apperley Bridge says...
11:58am Tue 18 Nov 08
We dont need to strengthen centrally because as soon as SM brings a right winger in, Nicky Law will play in the middle. Daley is class on the left and his strength is cutting in on his right foot.
The team is geared up to play with two wingers with pace and I would bet whoever he is trying to bring in, will be quick.
In terms of the strikers I do think we need to strengthen the squad with somebody who will come in and score goals regulary. Thorney looks like he is playing with a knock to me.
Why is Topp not getting a chance? Answer, go to training and watch him, he isnt good enough, lots of skill but nothing else, no pace, cant finish and his best position i.e behind the front two is not a system the team plays or will ever play with Macca in charge.
The team is geared up to play with two wingers with pace and I would bet whoever he is trying to bring in, will be quick.
In terms of the strikers I do think we need to strengthen the squad with somebody who will come in and score goals regulary. Thorney looks like he is playing with a knock to me.
Why is Topp not getting a chance? Answer, go to training and watch him, he isnt good enough, lots of skill but nothing else, no pace, cant finish and his best position i.e behind the front two is not a system the team plays or will ever play with Macca in charge.
Pablo, Bradford says...
12:11pm Tue 18 Nov 08
I don't agree that we should "leave the Topp story alone"
1. We pursued him for many months.
2. He attracted the first fee we've paid for many years.
3. The excuse last season was that he was carrying an injury.
4. The supporters "pay" his wages.
5. Many players find it hard to motivate themselves in the reserves.
6. Other fringe players have had a chance this season.
Conclusion.
What a waste of money!
1. We pursued him for many months.
2. He attracted the first fee we've paid for many years.
3. The excuse last season was that he was carrying an injury.
4. The supporters "pay" his wages.
5. Many players find it hard to motivate themselves in the reserves.
6. Other fringe players have had a chance this season.
Conclusion.
What a waste of money!
lookout, eccelshill says...
12:43pm Tue 18 Nov 08
shaun from richmond wrote:Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!
Waynus, BD6 says...
12:46pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Pablo wrote:If he is 'a waste of money, why do you want to continue the debate?
I don't agree that we should "leave the Topp story alone" 1. We pursued him for many months. 2. He attracted the first fee we've paid for many years. 3. The excuse last season was that he was carrying an injury. 4. The supporters "pay" his wages. 5. Many players find it hard to motivate themselves in the reserves. 6. Other fringe players have had a chance this season. Conclusion. What a waste of money!
As J4CKO said, he simply isn't good enough and doesn't fit into the style of play we have at City. When McCall first saw him, he wanted him up front alongside Thorne. However, when he has played, he has looked skillful and possesses a good footballing brain, but just couldn't get his ability to show consistently.
As you say, we are paying his wages, but you wouldn't put somone in the side just because we pay their wages would you? The solution is to negotiate a release for him. Let him go instead of leaving him to rot in the reserves, whilst paying out a wedge every week.
Waynus, BD6 says...
12:50pm Tue 18 Nov 08
lookout wrote:If we didn't know who this poster was before, we certainly do now. I had my concerns 'skippy' had regenerated into 'look-out', now I know he has.
shaun from richmond wrote: Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
He has regenerated more times than Doctor Who?
Waynus, BD6 says...
12:57pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Lenny_the_legend wrote:This is a good view-point and one that COULD work. I suggested it as a viable option before the MK Dons game, with Arnison coming in at right-back and TJ pushed further forward. This allows Law to operate in the middle where he can/will do more damage.
Here is a suggestion that might be a bit out of the box when coming to talking about the "right wing" issue. Why not for now play TJ as the winger ? He has pace, can deliver a good cross ( Barnet game as an example to set up BC ) and would be a bit more solid defensively then play Law in the middle where he is best ? Or alternatively, play O'Brien on the left wing, Daley on the right (where he is best) and Hecky at LB ? Why waste money on another loan player when we can look "in house" for solutions ?
It also makes us more solid defensively as Arnison is the better full back. TJ would add value as a pacey outlet as well as being able to help out Arnison when he gets over-run.
Not keen on the Heckinbottom/O'Brien idea though. However, I think TJ can do a job until Colbeck returns.
Lenny_the_legend, bratfud says...
2:04pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Exactly ! It's all about doing a job until Colbeck returns - or even Bullock returns and Law moves out wide again.
Why not give it a go ? Further more, why not give Leon the chance -nothing to lose compared to bringing in someone unfamiliar with set-up/tactics/playe
rs etc and to add to the wage bill - in a time when ML and JR will be thinking of possible budget for transfer window ?
I wish that SM would sometimes have a bit more faith in the youngsters at our club !
Why not give it a go ? Further more, why not give Leon the chance -nothing to lose compared to bringing in someone unfamiliar with set-up/tactics/playe
rs etc and to add to the wage bill - in a time when ML and JR will be thinking of possible budget for transfer window ?
I wish that SM would sometimes have a bit more faith in the youngsters at our club !
ricky, barrowford nr burnley says...
3:38pm Tue 18 Nov 08
soulman wrote:soulman thats what i have stated on a previous post about the injuries thats why i dont agree with some fans who have been dissapointed so far this season the likes of bully furman colbeck will be back in the first team once they are fit
I thought Daley was a natural right winger? I am not sure what Topp is meant to do but if we pay his wages? We also have Nicky Law and Kyle Nix. Joe Colebeck will return in about six weeks. It still strikes me that the centre of midfield is the weakspot. What is it this season with injuries? Cannot recall a season when we have had virtually a whole team out. Bullock, Furman, Brandon (who he?), Colebeck, Topp(?), and Bower. There must be something up with Arnison, plus Heckingbottom. Thorne seems to carry a low level yet persistent back injury. A decade ago we maintained a fairly consistent line up.
only thing i am unsure of is who to play at right back now arnsion is back tj as done ok in most games but i think he is better at centre half and arnison after a shaky start looked like he was getting is act together then got injured so its a hard one to call for me as for tj beening used as a winger thats an intresting point lenny pace he does have and can also cross a ball pretty well so maybe that may be not such a bad move it would solve my right back solution (lol) if stu does that law and mclaren could play in the middle like they did at mk dons and to be far didnt do to bad together but i would put bully back in there once fully fit either way
shaun from richmond, richmond says...
3:40pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Waynus wrote:Easy to spot you Waynus!! Youll be the bloke taking lots of notes during the Rotheram game.......so you can bore us to death with your drivel on Monday!!
lookout wrote:If we didn't know who this poster was before, we certainly do now. I had my concerns 'skippy' had regenerated into 'look-out', now I know he has. He has regenerated more times than Doctor Who?shaun from richmond wrote: Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
Spenvalleyspartan, Heckmondwike says...
4:02pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Pleased to see Stuart acting and trying to bring much needed balance to the side. For far too long Daley has been our only player who can get behind opposing defencers and draw in 2 to 3 defenders. He needs help and a dedicated right winger is what we're crying out for. Law plays well in the centre of midfield so leave him there until Bullock is back!
Do agree with other postings reguarding Moncur who could do a job on the right with Arni at right back.
Do agree with other postings reguarding Moncur who could do a job on the right with Arni at right back.
Waynus, BD6 says...
4:05pm Tue 18 Nov 08
shaun from richmond wrote:Oh, are you back? GREAT! The Three 'Muskey tears' are back together again.
Waynus wrote:Easy to spot you Waynus!! Youll be the bloke taking lots of notes during the Rotheram game.......so you can bore us to death with your drivel on Monday!!lookout wrote:If we didn't know who this poster was before, we certainly do now. I had my concerns 'skippy' had regenerated into 'look-out', now I know he has. He has regenerated more times than Doctor Who?shaun from richmond wrote: Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
YAWN!!!
albion, west riding says...
4:07pm Tue 18 Nov 08
shaun from richmond wrote:Supercilious drivel please.
Waynus wrote:Easy to spot you Waynus!! Youll be the bloke taking lots of notes during the Rotheram game.......so you can bore us to death with your drivel on Monday!!
lookout wrote:If we didn't know who this poster was before, we certainly do now. I had my concerns 'skippy' had regenerated into 'look-out', now I know he has. He has regenerated more times than Doctor Who?shaun from richmond wrote: Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
Waynus, BD6 says...
4:15pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Spenvalleyspartan wrote:Although I agree with you, Ricky and Lenny, I see no reason to play Law on the right again, even when the injured players come back.
Pleased to see Stuart acting and trying to bring much needed balance to the side. For far too long Daley has been our only player who can get behind opposing defencers and draw in 2 to 3 defenders. He needs help and a dedicated right winger is what we're crying out for. Law plays well in the centre of midfield so leave him there until Bullock is back! Do agree with other postings reguarding Moncur who could do a job on the right with Arni at right back.
He isn't a right winger and I see no reason to put a round peg in a square hole. Play him in the middle and keep him there. I rate him highly, just not on the right of midfield. When Bully comes back, I would replace McLaren instead of moving Law.
I really would like to see Arnison back in at right-back with TJ playing in front of him. He has pace, can cross and does make some good surging runs. When we don't have the ball, he would be a better defensive midfielder than either Colbeck or Law.
I am surprised McCall hasn't tried him out in training and reserve games in that position, especially given the injury problems we have on the right-wing.
Should McCall not want to play TJ in midfield, I agree with Lenny that Ossie should keep the role. He played okay against 'one of the best left-backs in League 1' and surely deserves the chance to earn a contract extension. Or is he going to be another player not given a fair crack of the whip before being discarded?
macca1969, settle says...
4:16pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Waynus wrote:What my point was as it confused you was,we don't need another winger when the manager doesn't play them as such.Nicky Law could have played in the middle and osbourne could have played on the wing like he did so well th week before.He has the pace to frighten the other teams to make them aware of pushing up too far. This helps to take the pressure off our team defensively. David Beckham is a right sided midfield player this does not and has never made him a winger.McCall has not got it spot on as you suggest, as he could have used osbourne or the most talked about reserve player in our club history as a winger, but doesn't have faith in the players he has got to do that role, why bring in more dead wood then play defensively again.
macca1969 wrote: Why another winger,its the center of the team that needs strenghing,for a start a winger is an attacking player and every time city go away to a decent side mccall plays defensively.Why didn'nt he play osbourne on sat against wycombe,because he is frightened by any decent side in rthe league.I said if we play defensively for a draw we would get nothing thats exactly what we got.I know Wycombe are a big strong physical side (just like MK Dons) but what is it rthat big strong teams don't like PACE, even i know that.If we had the ability to hit them down both flanks with raw pace they would have had to defend deeper meanining they could not physically press us for the entire second half into our own half.Yes it was a lucky goal but as they say fortune follows the brave and we hust are not brave enough at the moment.Come on Stuart we nmay not be the biggest club in the country but we are the biggest in this league,RESPECT the opposition but lets start getting about them and try winning these matches we are better than wycombe and with the positive attitude we would destroy them.Do you not trust your players if not why are they here?Play for a draw against rothers and we won't be beat 1-0 we will lose by 3.Go out and try to win the game who knows maybe we will get that bit of luck this week.Give the players the freedom they need strong rthrough the middle pace on the flanks and the results should flow,remember the bwest form of defence is attack they can't score if we are in there halfHey up fella. Isn't your post confusing? You start by asking why we are looking to bring in another winger (instead of a central midfielder) and then state we need width, as attack is the best form of defence. I believe McCall may have got it spot on. We need natural width on the right hand side. Something that will give opposing teams more to think about that just marking Daley. I also believe we already have the 'box-to-box' player you requested for midfield. He is playing right-wing at the moment and that is our problem. Law plays his best football in the centre of the park and it was no coincidence that we snuffed out MK Dons when Law played in his natural position. By bringing in a natural winger (must be better than Colbeck/Brandon though), it gives us the option of moving Law inside and giving us more balance.
Waynus, BD6 says...
4:17pm Tue 18 Nov 08
albion wrote:You have obviously learnt a new word in the last week. You can't post a comment without using it!
shaun from richmond wrote:Supercilious drivel please.Waynus wrote:Easy to spot you Waynus!! Youll be the bloke taking lots of notes during the Rotheram game.......so you can bore us to death with your drivel on Monday!!lookout wrote:If we didn't know who this poster was before, we certainly do now. I had my concerns 'skippy' had regenerated into 'look-out', now I know he has. He has regenerated more times than Doctor Who?shaun from richmond wrote: Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
BORING!
Try posting on the subject rather than attack someone else's posts.
Waynus, BD6 says...
4:25pm Tue 18 Nov 08
macca1969 wrote:I understand what you are saying in relation to Ossie and Topp, but neither are natural wingers. Infact, both were classed as forwards when they came onto the scene. We have tried the right-hand side midfielder, but to be fair, we haven't looked balanced since Colbeck went off the boil. We need a natural right-winger in our side. Admittedly, not all teams do, but if we have a player on the right that can't hurt other teams, such as Law, Topp or possibly Osborne, teams will continue to attack us down that side and will pay extra attention to Daley as they know he can hurt them.
Waynus wrote:What my point was as it confused you was,we don't need another winger when the manager doesn't play them as such.Nicky Law could have played in the middle and osbourne could have played on the wing like he did so well th week before.He has the pace to frighten the other teams to make them aware of pushing up too far. This helps to take the pressure off our team defensively. David Beckham is a right sided midfield player this does not and has never made him a winger.McCall has not got it spot on as you suggest, as he could have used osbourne or the most talked about reserve player in our club history as a winger, but doesn't have faith in the players he has got to do that role, why bring in more dead wood then play defensively again.macca1969 wrote: Why another winger,its the center of the team that needs strenghing,for a start a winger is an attacking player and every time city go away to a decent side mccall plays defensively.Why didn'nt he play osbourne on sat against wycombe,because he is frightened by any decent side in rthe league.I said if we play defensively for a draw we would get nothing thats exactly what we got.I know Wycombe are a big strong physical side (just like MK Dons) but what is it rthat big strong teams don't like PACE, even i know that.If we had the ability to hit them down both flanks with raw pace they would have had to defend deeper meanining they could not physically press us for the entire second half into our own half.Yes it was a lucky goal but as they say fortune follows the brave and we hust are not brave enough at the moment.Come on Stuart we nmay not be the biggest club in the country but we are the biggest in this league,RESPECT the opposition but lets start getting about them and try winning these matches we are better than wycombe and with the positive attitude we would destroy them.Do you not trust your players if not why are they here?Play for a draw against rothers and we won't be beat 1-0 we will lose by 3.Go out and try to win the game who knows maybe we will get that bit of luck this week.Give the players the freedom they need strong rthrough the middle pace on the flanks and the results should flow,remember the bwest form of defence is attack they can't score if we are in there halfHey up fella. Isn't your post confusing? You start by asking why we are looking to bring in another winger (instead of a central midfielder) and then state we need width, as attack is the best form of defence. I believe McCall may have got it spot on. We need natural width on the right hand side. Something that will give opposing teams more to think about that just marking Daley. I also believe we already have the 'box-to-box' player you requested for midfield. He is playing right-wing at the moment and that is our problem. Law plays his best football in the centre of the park and it was no coincidence that we snuffed out MK Dons when Law played in his natural position. By bringing in a natural winger (must be better than Colbeck/Brandon though), it gives us the option of moving Law inside and giving us more balance.
As long as the player McCall has in mind is a natural winger and has pace, can cross and hopefully has a good shot, I see no reason not to bring him on board. Do you really think he will bring him in and not play him? All his other loan signings play, even when they don't warrant their positions.
macca1969, settle says...
4:39pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Waynus the point i'm making is ossie did ok natural or not.He has pace is young hungry why not play him as a winger Theo Walcott is supposed to be a striker and because of his pace he doesn't do to bad does he? At a club like bradford you have to give and trust the young players we can't just go in for a loan fix all the time develope the youth and then trust them. I still maintain if ossie had played and law was in the middle we could oif got a result against Wycombe they are not a bad side but they are also not a great side
Halifax Bantam, halifax says...
4:49pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Take no notice Waynus, i dont always agree with you but you post valid points and can back them up.
I personally dont think we should be looking for new forwards at the moment either, but what i do believe is that there were better forwards available during the summer than Conlon and Boulding.
Likewise i think there were better midfielders than Mclaren and better center backs than Lee,
we're stuck with the team we've got, we went for expirience and ability but forgot to balance that with pace, strength and a Physical presence.
Law is no winger and once Furman and Bullock are fit he will be going back to Sheffield.
A decent right winger would solve our problem on the flank and would be welcome signing.
I personally dont think we should be looking for new forwards at the moment either, but what i do believe is that there were better forwards available during the summer than Conlon and Boulding.
Likewise i think there were better midfielders than Mclaren and better center backs than Lee,
we're stuck with the team we've got, we went for expirience and ability but forgot to balance that with pace, strength and a Physical presence.
Law is no winger and once Furman and Bullock are fit he will be going back to Sheffield.
A decent right winger would solve our problem on the flank and would be welcome signing.
lookout, eccelshill says...
5:28pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Waynus wrote:As usual wrong again,he seems to have disappeared,he wasn't wrong all the time,can you throw any light on the subject?
lookout wrote:If we didn't know who this poster was before, we certainly do now. I had my concerns 'skippy' had regenerated into 'look-out', now I know he has. He has regenerated more times than Doctor Who?shaun from richmond wrote: Any chance of strengthening the coaching position!! ie...getting a coach who knows what hes doing!!Couldn't have put it better,there has to be someone out there who needs a job and is better than Jacobs.
soulman, baildon says...
5:34pm Tue 18 Nov 08
I guess i agree with Macca1969. If Ossie is so good that he is ahead in the pecking order than Topp, then lets see him do his stuff at VP. We have killed sides with our pace, and gone onto win. You can also play the game of switch the wingers part way through a match, to confuse the opposition. Perhaps Topp should say addios, either play him or let him go.
audal, waikikamukau says...
6:00pm Tue 18 Nov 08
it puzzles me why posters seem to be demanding topp plays. in the months he has been here how many have seen him play well or even play at all? the lad was a mistake,end off.every club makes duff signings but move on. so stop bleating about a mistake made.
LeftWanting, Heaton says...
7:29pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Does anybody know when WAYNUS is going on holiday?
Spenvalleyspartan, Heckmondwike says...
7:49pm Tue 18 Nov 08
LeftWanting wrote:Does anyone know when your gonna get a women 40 year old virgin? Oh sorry! your too busy being an annoying fly in the ointment stuck in your bedroom you social inadequate!!!
Does anybody know when WAYNUS is going on holiday?
soulman, baildon says...
8:06pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Wee said Spen
Bradford1903, The Kop says...
9:05pm Tue 18 Nov 08
I agree that we could do with a winger, but it's hardly a ringing endorsement for Nicky Law, who was brought in to play on the right hand side. Both Furman and Nix were fit to play alongside McLaren at the time he arrived, and he was brought in to cover for Colbeck.
That being said if we can bring in a winger, it will allow him to slot inside into his natural position alongside McLaren.
Another tough game on Sat, but we need to be getting something from games like this if we want to be up there, particularly when we don't play well.
It's a concern that we don't seem to be able to grind out results, particularly away from home, as 4 defeats so far would testify.
That being said if we can bring in a winger, it will allow him to slot inside into his natural position alongside McLaren.
Another tough game on Sat, but we need to be getting something from games like this if we want to be up there, particularly when we don't play well.
It's a concern that we don't seem to be able to grind out results, particularly away from home, as 4 defeats so far would testify.
Spenvalleyspartan, Heckmondwike says...
10:40pm Tue 18 Nov 08
It will be very disappointing if we don't come back from Sheffield with something. The Millers went down 3-0 at home to Aldershot tonight in the cup. If we have any aspirations for promotion we need to mirror Rotherhams last 2 results on saturday. Hopefully we will have a new winger on the right by then.
soulman, baildon says...
10:58pm Tue 18 Nov 08
Actually Spen if you 'mirror' something the vision is in reverse ( eft is right and vice versa). So if the score was to be mirrored it would be 3-0 to the Rotherham Wanderers!1
BUT know what you mean. What we want is a big confidence boosting win.
BUT know what you mean. What we want is a big confidence boosting win.
Spenvalleyspartan, Heckmondwike says...
12:42am Wed 19 Nov 08
Jesus Soulman! Its too late for physics lessons mate! My heads a shed and me brains a train!
Ok I mean replicate Rotherhams last 2 results. I have a lot of respect for Mark Robins as a manager and hope that Stuart can outfox him. Would be a massive win if we could do the business on saturday!
Ok I mean replicate Rotherhams last 2 results. I have a lot of respect for Mark Robins as a manager and hope that Stuart can outfox him. Would be a massive win if we could do the business on saturday!
LeftWanting, Heaton says...
8:26am Tue 18 Nov 08