Hitting a brick wall should be no problem to City players as long as they hit it with their heads.

It is pleasing to hear Citys' defence is improving.( With our experienced defender coaches-City should have the best defence in Div.2) The 'lucky' goal that Wycombe got, illustrates that the only difference between these sides, was 'Lady Luck'.
City should get that 'luck' back in the replay at Valley Parade. Not only will City win that match, but they will score more goals than 1. Thus improving Citys' goal difference, although the points achieved, will have been cancelled out.

Rotherham will be an equally tight and very tough match.Rotherham are working miracles to survive.
Citys' strikers need to improve to beat Rotherham, as they were not good enough to break down Wycombes excellent defence. THE 'BRADFORD ARMY' WILL NEED TO TURN OUT IN FORCE, IN SHEFFIELD, TO HELP WIN THAT MATCH.

Finally, why are we still being subjected to fixture periods of TWO Away Matches, then TWO Home??.
What happened to Home, then Away, then Home etc.? Any reasons please?.

Freddy wrote:
It is pleasing to hear Citys' defence is improving.( With our experienced defender coaches-City should have the best defence in Div.2) The 'lucky' goal that Wycombe got, illustrates that the only difference between these sides, was 'Lady Luck'. City should get that 'luck' back in the replay at Valley Parade. Not only will City win that match, but they will score more goals than 1. Thus improving Citys' goal difference, although the points achieved, will have been cancelled out. Rotherham will be an equally tight and very tough match.Rotherham are working miracles to survive. Citys' strikers need to improve to beat Rotherham, as they were not good enough to break down Wycombes excellent defence. THE 'BRADFORD ARMY' WILL NEED TO TURN OUT IN FORCE, IN SHEFFIELD, TO HELP WIN THAT MATCH. Finally, why are we still being subjected to fixture periods of TWO Away Matches, then TWO Home??. What happened to Home, then Away, then Home etc.? Any reasons please?.

First point was your last question. I don't know why we have two home games followed by two away. However, it is a computer that makes the draw for league fixtures and there is nothing to stop the fixtures coming out in that pattern. Looking ahead, we play home on 28/12 and again on 3/1. On 24 & 27/1, we are away, followed by two more home games. From 21/2 we have back to back away games, followed by two home games and then another 2 away games. After that, it is back to normal until the end of the season.

As for the 'lucky' goal, I disagree with your comments. We weren't unlucky on Saturday. We battled hard, but didn't look like breaking them down. However, in the second half, they looked more and more likely to break the deadlock. That isn't lucky. Before the goal, they hit the inside of the post and Evans was relieved to see it come back out. Nine times out of ten, that would have gone in. As for their goal, it was a poke from one of their players which Lee should have been able to deal with comfortably. Regrettebly, he made a hash of his clearance and their fullback scored. Not really 'bad-luck', more a case of poor defending.

Please don't accept this view as criticism of our performance on Saturday. During the first 45 minutes we were as good as they were (if not better). However, Taylor changed things for them and they looked much the better team. They aren't 2nd in the league (with a game in hand) for being a poor team.

Waynus wrote:

Freddy wrote: It is pleasing to hear Citys' defence is improving.( With our experienced defender coaches-City should have the best defence in Div.2) The 'lucky' goal that Wycombe got, illustrates that the only difference between these sides, was 'Lady Luck'. City should get that 'luck' back in the replay at Valley Parade. Not only will City win that match, but they will score more goals than 1. Thus improving Citys' goal difference, although the points achieved, will have been cancelled out. Rotherham will be an equally tight and very tough match.Rotherham are working miracles to survive. Citys' strikers need to improve to beat Rotherham, as they were not good enough to break down Wycombes excellent defence. THE 'BRADFORD ARMY' WILL NEED TO TURN OUT IN FORCE, IN SHEFFIELD, TO HELP WIN THAT MATCH. Finally, why are we still being subjected to fixture periods of TWO Away Matches, then TWO Home??. What happened to Home, then Away, then Home etc.? Any reasons please?.

First point was your last question. I don't know why we have two home games followed by two away. However, it is a computer that makes the draw for league fixtures and there is nothing to stop the fixtures coming out in that pattern. Looking ahead, we play home on 28/12 and again on 3/1. On 24 & 27/1, we are away, followed by two more home games. From 21/2 we have back to back away games, followed by two home games and then another 2 away games. After that, it is back to normal until the end of the season. As for the 'lucky' goal, I disagree with your comments. We weren't unlucky on Saturday. We battled hard, but didn't look like breaking them down. However, in the second half, they looked more and more likely to break the deadlock. That isn't lucky. Before the goal, they hit the inside of the post and Evans was relieved to see it come back out. Nine times out of ten, that would have gone in. As for their goal, it was a poke from one of their players which Lee should have been able to deal with comfortably. Regrettebly, he made a hash of his clearance and their fullback scored. Not really 'bad-luck', more a case of poor defending. Please don't accept this view as criticism of our performance on Saturday. During the first 45 minutes we were as good as they were (if not better). However, Taylor changed things for them and they looked much the better team. They aren't 2nd in the league (with a game in hand) for being a poor team.

How good are City then?

lookout wrote:

Waynus wrote:

Freddy wrote: It is pleasing to hear Citys' defence is improving.( With our experienced defender coaches-City should have the best defence in Div.2) The 'lucky' goal that Wycombe got, illustrates that the only difference between these sides, was 'Lady Luck'. City should get that 'luck' back in the replay at Valley Parade. Not only will City win that match, but they will score more goals than 1. Thus improving Citys' goal difference, although the points achieved, will have been cancelled out. Rotherham will be an equally tight and very tough match.Rotherham are working miracles to survive. Citys' strikers need to improve to beat Rotherham, as they were not good enough to break down Wycombes excellent defence. THE 'BRADFORD ARMY' WILL NEED TO TURN OUT IN FORCE, IN SHEFFIELD, TO HELP WIN THAT MATCH. Finally, why are we still being subjected to fixture periods of TWO Away Matches, then TWO Home??. What happened to Home, then Away, then Home etc.? Any reasons please?.

First point was your last question. I don't know why we have two home games followed by two away. However, it is a computer that makes the draw for league fixtures and there is nothing to stop the fixtures coming out in that pattern. Looking ahead, we play home on 28/12 and again on 3/1. On 24 & 27/1, we are away, followed by two more home games. From 21/2 we have back to back away games, followed by two home games and then another 2 away games. After that, it is back to normal until the end of the season. As for the 'lucky' goal, I disagree with your comments. We weren't unlucky on Saturday. We battled hard, but didn't look like breaking them down. However, in the second half, they looked more and more likely to break the deadlock. That isn't lucky. Before the goal, they hit the inside of the post and Evans was relieved to see it come back out. Nine times out of ten, that would have gone in. As for their goal, it was a poke from one of their players which Lee should have been able to deal with comfortably. Regrettebly, he made a hash of his clearance and their fullback scored. Not really 'bad-luck', more a case of poor defending. Please don't accept this view as criticism of our performance on Saturday. During the first 45 minutes we were as good as they were (if not better). However, Taylor changed things for them and they looked much the better team. They aren't 2nd in the league (with a game in hand) for being a poor team.

How good are City then?

From a personal point of view, I believe we are 'average/good'. We are a top six side that on a good day can beat any of these teams. However, as we have seen all too often this season, we aren't consistent enough to be 'good'. My concern is that the inconsistency doesn't stretch across several games, it usually happens in one game. What I mean is we can be good in one half and woeful in the next 45 minutes.

What's your own view?

It's all actually quite interesting being more than just a follower of Bradford City. The majority of us who nosey about these pages are true loyal fans, who LOVE their club. We love City regardless of what league the club finds its self in, and I'm glad to say regardless of where we, the fans live. I am though a little fed up, fed up of the dream that isn't (yet) reality. It's a huge disappointment that the City of Bradford has become something of a place to laugh at by all those who do not live there or haven't been born and bred there. It's a shame that the only true pride left in the City is placed in it's football club and it appears there only.... (sorry Odsal but RL isn't big enough to carry this city forward). This 'looking down' on Bradford as a place started decades ago.... and it gets worse every year.

Now, the place aint great, but the people generally are, the people, a lot of whom follow their local football club through success, failure and sadly tragedy, them that lined the route when the club secured a place in the top flight, then kept it against all odds 12 months later.... I was personally in a dream world stood at Saltaire roundabout. Great times.

I actually don't want to see City back in the top flight... not as it is now, 'cos it's a joke league, all but four teams struggling to survive as those who fail suffer terribly. The mentality is survival not progress. The Championship, in my opinion is where it's at, the place where our Club SHOULD be. It's not a right, it's got to be earned.... and the club should be striving to bring this forward. Bring it on for the deserving fans .....

The owners, the management, the players, I believe OWE it to the fans to re affirm the pride we have in BCAFC because sadly Bradford, the football is the only thing that gives the City it's pride..... it's time to stop the talk, stop the pathetic results against the likes of Wycombe (who?) Barnet (come on!) Accrington Stanley (go on say it....) Bradford City is a club that needs to repay its fans for their commitment. Come on CITY, Bradford is a huge place with a huge club and yes a worldwide fan base. It's time now to start taking these teams on and taking them out, one by one - it's not acceptable to think that we will be happy with promotion, I for one want the title, comfortably.... and we deserve it, I would argue MORE than anyone. Why? Because of the history behind the club, the one FA CUP, the fire (R.I.P. all those) the premiership wins against Chelsea, Liverpool and others... the pride, the fans.

Stuart McCall, loves this club, he has put his whole reputation with all us fans on the line.... he needs our backing and he needs to start kicking some ar5e along with his players. This league title belongs to City, give the fans what they deserve. NOTHING LESS. The title charge starts now, go for the top and own that position. Second place is first loser.

A sad Reckless who is fed up of waking up down under to poor results on Sunday mornings :-(

off to bed now ;-)

"kicking some ar5e" i dont think he has it in him, and if he did, half of this lot would be on the sick for the rest of the season.

some of you must have been born miserable,for crying out loud take a reality check,we have had half the squad out through injury for a very long period yet we are still only 4 points off top spot look on the positive side of things for a change and be happy we are still within striking distance.Give the team some encouragement be at Don Valley in force and cheer them on to victory.

totally agree tony e we have have the likes of furman colbeck bullock bower hecky and arnison out injured in recent weeks and the fact we still havent seen brandon yet we have done alright ok people will point at the performances and say we havent played at the standard we would like but this is 4th tier english football not the prem

Understand that most of the first team have been asked to appear at the Alhambra in this years pantomime.

LeftWanting wrote:
Understand that most of the first team have been asked to appear at the Alhambra in this years pantomime.

Oh no they haven't...

PS. Security password is find-help. No more words needed.

Leftwanting! Why don't you ask Santa for a women this year as all your postings point to you being a bored 40 year old virgin!! You sad little man!

Simon Parker is an idiot of course Thorne was talking about having a go at their defence but what Thorne didnt account for was the lack attacking ideas from his team mates, he got nothing because we lumped everthing in the air to their back four,again we lacked any sort of gameplan to break them down.
Peter Taylor is no mug in this division, he's done exactly what a lot of us have been crying out for City to do and has produced a side that is Physical, organised and hard to beat and he's done this on a budget smaller than ours!! his style of play may not be the most thrilling but he's doing exactly what it takes to get out of this division by playing it ugly, and good luck to him.

Spenvalleyspartan wrote:
Leftwanting! Why don't you ask Santa for a women this year as all your postings point to you being a bored 40 year old virgin!! You sad little man!

ahhahahahahahahh how accurate? Hahahaahah.

Fully agree Halifax bantam. In a result driven industry I would rather us progress by winning ugly than just been also rans and achieving nothing but mediocrity. To actually do by playing good football is a bonus but the result comes first.

Spenvalleyspartan wrote:
Fully agree Halifax bantam. In a result driven industry I would rather us progress by winning ugly than just been also rans and achieving nothing but mediocrity. To actually do by playing good football is a bonus but the result comes first.

Not sure the City (un)faithful would accept that.It may be a result driven industry but it is also an entertainment.I'd be nodding off if it was a 1 niller every week.It's taken long enough to get the stay away fans back down to VP on the promise of attacking football & £6 per match without subjecting them to eternal boredom. I think if we did play in that manner our crowds would actually go down!

I thought Leftwan*ing was huely interested in last weeks game, as it was against a team with a knickname that really interests it.

Well nearly, I think he is a Choir boy spotter. Likes the treble soprano's you know........

Not if we're turning teams over and people can see we are progressing. Yes I would prefer us to beat sides playing like Brazil. But is this gonna happen? Me thinks not! Remember the 1-0 to Arsenal chants of the late eighties/early nineties. I don't recall Highbury been half full. The fans will come as long as success is been delivered. I personally would rather leave VP after a 1-0 win and 3 points than a 3-2 defeat and another season in the bargain basement division!

"Waynus" said--' Regrettebly, he made a hash of his clearance and their fullback scored. Not really 'bad-luck', more a case of poor defending.'

Don't agree 'Waynus'. If you watch the goal again, you will see that it did not hit anyone in the face. Lee was caught off balance and in attempting to clear, it went to a Wycombe striker and rebounded off his legs straight to another Wycombe striker. It all occurred rapidly.
It was not a well worked passing move. It was not a training ground set piece delivery. It was not a brilliant flowing attack, by a very skillful striker. IT WAS A LUCKY REBOUND, into the path of a striker, who just had to put the ball into the target.
As you are a Team Manager, may I suggest that some diplomatic thoughts, and words, may help to recover your team from a 'Lucky Goal' scored against them. Yes- Wycombe were the Home side and were pressing for a goal. Yes- there was a lucky rebound off the upright into our keepers arms. But that is what can, and does happen in football matches. City tried to play against a team with the best defensive record in Division 2. City should have the best defence in Div.2 with Three experienced defender coaches. We need to have the best strikers in Division 2 as well, otherwise we will not get out of this league.
WE need that element of 'LUCK'. We did not get that 'luck' in the Wycombe match. Wycombe got that 'LUCK'.
City are improving, but they are still NOT good enough for automatic promotion. Either way, more players are needed(2 Defenders & 2 Strikers).
YES- WITH MORE PLAYERS,WE WILL STILL NEED THAT ELEMENT OF 'LUCK'. PLUS A MANAGER THAT CAN LIFT HIS TEAM, FROM A 'LUCKY' GOAL SCORED AGAINST THEM: AND MOTIVATE THEM TO GO ON TO WIN THE NEXT, AND THE NEXT MATCHES ETC.
Freddy-MISM.

Freddy wrote:
"Waynus" said--' Regrettebly, he made a hash of his clearance and their fullback scored. Not really 'bad-luck', more a case of poor defending.' Don't agree 'Waynus'. If you watch the goal again, you will see that it did not hit anyone in the face. Lee was caught off balance and in attempting to clear, it went to a Wycombe striker and rebounded off his legs straight to another Wycombe striker. It all occurred rapidly. It was not a well worked passing move. It was not a training ground set piece delivery. It was not a brilliant flowing attack, by a very skillful striker. IT WAS A LUCKY REBOUND, into the path of a striker, who just had to put the ball into the target. As you are a Team Manager, may I suggest that some diplomatic thoughts, and words, may help to recover your team from a 'Lucky Goal' scored against them. Yes- Wycombe were the Home side and were pressing for a goal. Yes- there was a lucky rebound off the upright into our keepers arms. But that is what can, and does happen in football matches. City tried to play against a team with the best defensive record in Division 2. City should have the best defence in Div.2 with Three experienced defender coaches. We need to have the best strikers in Division 2 as well, otherwise we will not get out of this league. WE need that element of 'LUCK'. We did not get that 'luck' in the Wycombe match. Wycombe got that 'LUCK'. City are improving, but they are still NOT good enough for automatic promotion. Either way, more players are needed(2 Defenders & 2 Strikers). YES- WITH MORE PLAYERS,WE WILL STILL NEED THAT ELEMENT OF 'LUCK'. PLUS A MANAGER THAT CAN LIFT HIS TEAM, FROM A 'LUCKY' GOAL SCORED AGAINST THEM: AND MOTIVATE THEM TO GO ON TO WIN THE NEXT, AND THE NEXT MATCHES ETC. Freddy-MISM.

Now you are in trouble.

"Lookout"--With Whom??. I fear no-one. I speak my mind, and I have training and qualifications to support my knowledge and opinion.
Are you making some form of veiled threat?.

Freddy wrote:
"Waynus" said--' Regrettebly, he made a hash of his clearance and their fullback scored. Not really 'bad-luck', more a case of poor defending.' Don't agree 'Waynus'. If you watch the goal again, you will see that it did not hit anyone in the face. Lee was caught off balance and in attempting to clear, it went to a Wycombe striker and rebounded off his legs straight to another Wycombe striker. It all occurred rapidly. It was not a well worked passing move. It was not a training ground set piece delivery. It was not a brilliant flowing attack, by a very skillful striker. IT WAS A LUCKY REBOUND, into the path of a striker, who just had to put the ball into the target. As you are a Team Manager, may I suggest that some diplomatic thoughts, and words, may help to recover your team from a 'Lucky Goal' scored against them. Yes- Wycombe were the Home side and were pressing for a goal. Yes- there was a lucky rebound off the upright into our keepers arms. But that is what can, and does happen in football matches. City tried to play against a team with the best defensive record in Division 2. City should have the best defence in Div.2 with Three experienced defender coaches. We need to have the best strikers in Division 2 as well, otherwise we will not get out of this league. WE need that element of 'LUCK'. We did not get that 'luck' in the Wycombe match. Wycombe got that 'LUCK'. City are improving, but they are still NOT good enough for automatic promotion. Either way, more players are needed(2 Defenders & 2 Strikers). YES- WITH MORE PLAYERS,WE WILL STILL NEED THAT ELEMENT OF 'LUCK'. PLUS A MANAGER THAT CAN LIFT HIS TEAM, FROM A 'LUCKY' GOAL SCORED AGAINST THEM: AND MOTIVATE THEM TO GO ON TO WIN THE NEXT, AND THE NEXT MATCHES ETC. Freddy-MISM.

I agree with a lot of what you type, but I just don't see eye to eye on this matter. As the old cliche goes, 'you make your own luck'. The fact is, had Lee cleared the ball as an experienced centre half should have done, the ball wouldn't have riccocheted to their player to score. Was you there or have you just seen the incident on TV? It was a routine clearance that he made a mess of - admittedly, that then brought them some luck in that it deflected into the path of Hunt, but the mistake was neither 'lucky' or 'unlucky'.

You even summed it uo yourself, "Lee was caught off balance and in attempting to clear, it went to a Wycombe striker". That is a mistake in my eyes and not a case of bad luck.

Freddy wrote:
"Lookout"--With Whom??. I fear no-one. I speak my mind, and I have training and qualifications to support my knowledge and opinion. Are you making some form of veiled threat?.

Don't worry Freddy, it was aimed at me, not you.

I posted that I thought Lee's attempted clearance had hit their player's face, not his legs, 'look-out' is making a statement that I wasn't actually there. I didn't see the goal on TV like more posters on here and I saw it as a deflection off his face, not his legs. I wrote what I thought had happened. Hardly 'in trouble' due to distance away from the pitch side.

Freddy wrote:
"Lookout"--With Whom??. I fear no-one. I speak my mind, and I have training and qualifications to support my knowledge and opinion. Are you making some form of veiled threat?.

No threat im not like that but you dared to have a diffrent opinion than the one and only Waynus.